Me: I dislike Iris West because of bad writing from the writers of the show and the fact that after amazing character growth in season 2, she hasn’t developed much during season 3 and has even stepped back as a character. Westallen has done nothing for her besides turn her into the thing Barry has to save, reducing her to more of an object than a human being. I feel if Westallen was removed, Iris might go back to being that strong, independent and powerful woman she was in season 2–one I was proud to like and would love to go back to doing so. (Not to mention Barry would be more himself.)
Westalleners: Oh so you’re a Snowbarry shipper then. Of course, you just want Barry with the white girl.
Me: Actually I would prefer Westallen over Snowbarry. Caitlin would be much better alone so she can properly recover from her–mostly ignored–PTSD and grow as a character without being with another man for a while. If she is to be with anybody, Cisco would be the best option for her down the line–not Barry. She actually has chemistry with Cisco. (And it would be better for him than that insta-romance with that other girl from a different Earth.) It’s shown that they care for each other.
Westalleners: …Well you’re still incredibly racist for hating Iris. What’s your problem?!
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ali-paoli said:
In short, I am just baffled why people who actually Like Iris West as a character defend WestAllen so vehemently. When the best I’ve seen her be is without Barry in the picture.
At this point I’d even settle for them realizing how controlling and bad what they did looks. But looking at the state of the fandom on tumblr, I am really disillusioned and doubt that will ever happen. :/
ali-paoli said:
someone who can very well make her own decision. I think Joe and Barry (or more accurately, the writers) got so used to thinking of Iris as “theirs” they forgot to acknowledge they’re actively denying her whole PERSONHOOD.
Just the optics of a woman (a black woman even!) having every man in her life make decisions for her. AND FOR HER DAD TO SAY HE /wouldnt listen to Eddie’s input (to not LIE to her) “until you’re her husband”./
ali-paoli said:
(2/3) extensions or property of their parents, but it would be an interesting narrative beat if they addressed it as the possessiveness it actually is. But coming from Barry? Barry who, as he himself puts it, is only her best friend? (This is a charitable reading where they don’t see or treat each other as siblings, because that’s what they SAY they feel) What claim does she have over her autonomy like that? Keeping secrets “for her own good” like shebis a child and not
ali-paoli said:
@jefferson-starshipsn I definitely liked her character in season one… Everything except her relationship with Barry. I genuinely don’t understand how people can support a ship where he’s making all these decisions for her like she’s not her own adult, with help from Joe of course, and the narrative frames it as a positive??? From Joe I don’t like it but I can understand it as the possessiveness of a parent protecting their child. It’s not right, children are not (½)
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